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Location:

Orem,UT,USA

Member Since:

Apr 03, 2006

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

HS/COLLEGE:
mile: 4:56, 2 mile: 10:21 (1978)
marathon: 2:52 (St. George 1982)
OLD MAN (20+ years later):
5K: 19:53 (Nestle/Art City Days 5K 2007)
10K: 39:55 (Spectrum 10K 2008)
half marathon: 1:26 (Hobble Creek 2008)
marathon: 3:07 (St. George 2007)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Get back to a BQ marathon time (currently 3:40).

Long-Term Running Goals:

Have fun running, keep fit, and fight middle age spread. Run consistently and injury free. Maintain a healthy balance between running and other life priorities. Encourage my ever-aging running buddies to keep running so we can continue to share runs on the trail instead of rocking chairs.

Personal:

Blessed to be married to Karen for 30 years. We have six children (4 daughters/2 sons) ages 16 to 30, and one wonderful granddaughter.

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Nathan and I (don't know why Tom wasn't there) ran the Eagles View hill course at noon today at roughly an easy marathon pace. I chose not to stop my watch at the red lights today so of course we got stopped at nearly everyone, plus a lady stopped in her car and asked us for directions. We figure we lost roughly a minute to those delays, so our adjusted finish time was roughly around 38:30 for the roughly 5 miles (roughly 7:42/mi). That's roughly how the run went.

The rain and cool air kept many people inside today, but shortly after we started the rain stopped and by the end of the run the sun was out and it was beautiful. Similar to Saturday's pace, we didn't really push hard but still managed to hold a respectable pace for us. I think this bodes well for St. George in two weeks.

During the run again today Nathan was trying to convince me I've got a 3:15 in me, maybe even a 3:10. Tom has made similar comments, but my primary goal still remains 3:20. My PR (in the current era) is 3:27, so 3:20 would beat my PR by 7 minutes, and my BQ time by 10 minutes.

Still, I feel like I'm in the best shape of my life (knock on wood), maybe even in relatively better (age adjusted) shape than 25 years ago when I ran St. George in 2:52 at age 22 (before taking a running hiatus of about 20 years). Based on my Hobble Creek half time of 1:27:03 in August, and using 40 miles per week as my average mileage (it's been higher recently), Sasha's predictor estimates my finishing time at 03:12:11. Using the (2 * half) + 10 minutes formula yields 3:04:06, or (2 * half) + 20 minutes yields 3:14:06. I'm beginning to wonder if 3:20 is really too low a goal for me this year?

I have nothing to lose. I'm already qualified for Boston, and even if I blow up near the end I might still have a chance of qualifying anyway. I kind of feel like the only way I could be disappointed at St. George this year would be to finish with gas left in the tank. I'd be very disappointed to run a 3:20 if I had a 3:10 in me.

I really want to push my limits, but I don't want to be foolish about it. My current plan is to run by feel. I've done some "don't look at the watch" runs and feel like I have a good handle on what a "fast marathon pace" effort feels like. Based on these runs, I think I may be able to safely hold around a 7:30 pace for the first 7 miles up to Veyo. That's the pace Nathan is targeting so I'm planning to run with him for these miles. Up Veyo and for the tough miles through Dammeron Valley I plan to let Nathan go (he's a strong hill runner) and try to hold a "medium to fast marathon pace" effort without pushing too hard. I may let the brakes off a little as the steeper downhill begins at mile 14, but I don't plan to push very hard prior to mile 20. From mile 20 to the end, I fully expect that last 10K to be very mentally and physically challenging. In fact, I'll be disappointed if it isn't because that means I should have pushed harder up to that point. I hope to be well on target for 3:20 at this point, hopefully closer to 3:15 or lower if things go well. I'm counting on having enough mental toughness, and enough training miles behind me, to focus and hold a good strong pace (7:30 or faster) through the finish.

The interesting thing for me on race day will be to try to ignore my watch for those first 7 miles and listen to what my body tell's me it is capable of that day, to exert that "fast marathon pace" effort and (with tapering, lower altitude, downhill, race day energy) see what pace that turns out to be. I averaged 6:38 at the Hobble Creek half marathon. I know I can't hold that pace for a full marathon, but what pace will it be: 8:09 (3:30 BQ), 7:49 (3:25 new PR), 7:38 (3:20 goal), 7:27 (3:15), 7:15 (3:10)?

Later I will discover the answers to other questions: Was what felt like a "fast marathon pace" effort early in the race truly that, or did I fall to my tendency to go out too fast and am I now destined to suffer pain and agony as I crash and burn? Did I really train hard enough to have enough left at the end? Am I really mentally tough enough to hold on and pull out everything that's left?

It will be fun finding out! I can hardly wait!

Comments
From Tom on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 21:02:40

Paul - I'm nearly as excited as you are to see how you and others do this year. I think your plan is sound and I KNOW you can do 3:20 even with bad conditions and that 3:10 - 3:15 is where I would think you most likely will end up.

Just don't run it like I did last year. Since my overriding goal was the BQ, I have no regrets that I didn't run it all out so that I made certain to get the 3:20. However I know I didn't run it near potential because the last 10K of the race I felt euphoric, possibly better than I've ever felt in any race. I don't think you're supposed to feel like that when you give your best effort. The 2 guys from SF who I think were closest to the same condition I was in both ran around 3:11-3:12. I know you're in better shape than I was so the potential is there for sub 3:10. But I also realize that last year the weather conditions were near ideal and that we very likely won't be so lucky this year.

At any rate I can't wait to see how all you great runners and great guys do.

From Tom on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 21:04:43

Oh..BTW in case you didn't read my updated blog for today....I was going to run with you guys but as soon as I got into work and saw my name associated with a show-stopper OES2 defect I knew the day was probably not going to be nice and relaxed. I had a window of time in the morning around 10 so figured that might be my only chance to get the run in. I called you about 11:50 but you must have already left.

From Kerry on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 12:21:59

I think there's a real advantage in running a race to have that "nothing-to-lose" attitude. When I'm too focused on holding a specific pace I'm not as relaxed and often hold back too much on the easy downhill sections up to Veyo. Last year we took it really easy the first mile, sped up a bit the second (to around 8:00 pace) and then the next four were between 7:15 and 7:30 running at a very comfortable pace. With the miles you've been putting in and with you speed improvement you should be able to pick up at least a couple of minutes on that stretch and a lot more on that stretch from 14 to 18. Those 60+ weeks then really pay off from there until the end. I know you've got a sub 3:15 in you!

There's always that risk of crashing before the end, but

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